Emily Bell: What inspired you to pursue cooking professionally?
David Bull: My family. My grandparents ran a small Italian restaurant in upstate New York, so I had no choice but to become part of the industry at a very young age. I fell in love with it immediately. I loved the family aspect of it, but also the hospitality aspect of it. I saw the positive impact it had on the people that came into the restaurant. I’ve been hooked ever since.
EB: What advice would you give to young chefs just getting started?
DB: Exercise patience. Be diligent in their pursuit of education. And don’t settle. Don’t settle on a restaurant; don’t settle on a chef. Make sure you’re constantly moving forward, learning, and being challenged.
EB: Do you recommend culinary school to aspiring cooks? Do you hire chefs with or without a culinary background?
DB: We hire chefs that have degrees; we hire chefs that have come up through hard knocks; we hire chefs that are directly out of culinary school or have no experience at all. It’s really recommended, but you’ve got to look at your individual surroundings and your personal opportunities. For individuals growing up in a major city with a major food scene, I would certainly recommend to stage. Culinary school was extremely beneficial for me, but still too often, kids get out of school and they realize they really don’t like it, that they’ve wasted a lot of money and time. My recommendation is to work for free for a while to make sure they understand what the industry is all about.
EB: How are you involved in your local culinary community?
DB: We do several charity events. We’re involved as much as we can be with certain local causes and events that we help nurture and take care of the community.
EB: What is your philosophy on food and dining?
DB: I believe strongly that we’re caretakers of the community—that we have a responsibility to our surroundings, to the city we live in, to provide the best experience possible. The philosophy goes back to sticking with true, natural ingredients and allowing those ingredients to shine through the process of technique and presentation. I believe that a chef is a facilitator of a process, just helping those ingredients come to light, making sure they are seen in the right way.
EB: What goes into creating a dish?
DB: Usually a few cocktails. No, really there are two ways. One is an intentional brainstorming session from cookbooks, etc., intentionally trying to gain inspiration. The other is random, involuntary inspiration from a new ingredient or a seasonal dish. A particular meat that happens to be around—rabbits are coming into season—so I’m looking forward to creating a dish dedicated to rabbits.
EB: What’s the biggest challenge facing your restaurant?
DB: Consistent control. Making sure the control mechanisms are constantly in place, to ensure profitability. Too often the fun stuff and the creative side overlook cost control. There’s got to be a fine balance constantly between the creativity and the profitability of the operation.
EB: What’s the toughest thing you’ve had to do in your job?
DB: Ours is unique because we’ve got two completely different restaurants that offer two different products [Congress Austin and Second Bar + Kitchen]. To balance time, energy, and focus has been challenging to maintain a value-driven community restaurant that’s open all the time and a high-end, chef-driven restaurant that’s coming out of the same kitchen, the same back of house, coming out of that space, the training and overall efficiency. Basically, maintaining standards throughout both operations simultaneously.
EB: If you had one thing you could do over again, what would it be?
DB: I would have worked for a lot more restaurants, a lot more chefs. I’ve got long-term employment but I would’ve gone back and definitely worked a few different restaurants to enhance my repertoire. I’d like to have more base knowledge in different cultures, different cuisines. I wish I had a bigger opportunity to travel in my younger days.
EB: Do you think travel is something you’ll prioritize in the future?
DB: Perhaps. It’s unlikely. That might be more toward the retirement process. Once I’m done opening restaurants, maybe I can go work for someone else for a while.
EB: What are some of your favorite food-industry charities? Why?
DB: We’ve supported so many. March of Dimes is a big one we do every year. Locally, we also do the Dell Children’s Medical Center, another big one. Capital Area Food Bank, Share Our Strength. The list goes on.
EB: What does success mean for you?
DB: Success for me means being able to provide an optimistic work environment for our employees. To help them fulfill their own ambition and their own dreams, with a financially stable person and professional life.
EB: Where do you see yourself in five years?
DB: Hopefully on a beach? You’ll probably find me—hopefully—with a couple more restaurants and a couple more hotel projects. But actually, sincerely, hopefully you’ll find me at home with my family.