Laura Lehrman: Usually I ask
fairly long, multi-part questions when I interview a StarChef.
If you're willing, I'd like to conduct this interview in a different
way or format. What I'd like to do is mention a word or phrase
and have you free associate, if you will, and tell our readers
what pops into your head when you hear the word or words. Is this
okay with you?
Melissa Kelly: That would
be just fine.
LL: Great! Here goes...Early Food Remembrances
MK: I have some great food
memories from my grandmother. I loved her cappelleti - little
pasta hats stuffed with pork and veal and ricotta. My grandmother
also made wonderful sweet rice cakes "fruttalinis." She made the
little cakes out of leftover rice, then rolled them in sugar and
pan-fried them in olive oil. They never made it off the draining
platter onto the serving plate when I was around. I don't know
if she made these up or not. These memories are from the time
I was 6 or 7 years old.
LL: Hardest Lessons At Cooking School
MK: For me, it was when
I went to cooking school. At that time, there weren't that many
women attending The Culinary Institute of America. I was constantly
being challenged by my classmates and the instructors, especially
because I was a woman. Some of my classmates kind of squeaked
by. While the male students were often out drinking beer in the
evenings, I was busy reading class notes and books and I think
I got more out of school than they did. The guys thought that
they already knew the material. I wasn't as sure of myself. (Interviewer's
Note: Melissa Kelly graduated first in her class.)
LL: Most Valuable Kitchen Training Experiences
MK: I worked with Larry
Forgione for 6 years which gave me invaluable experience. I did
a short stint at Chez Panisse where I discovered my own style.
Being there helped me a lot. The food was simple. It was like
the food I grew up with, but had never cooked in a restaurant
before that time. I started integrating my past and the food that
I knew and developed my own style. The Chez Panisse experience
was enlightening.
LL: Alice Waters
MK: I didn't work directly
with Alice Waters at Chez Panisse in Berkeley. In order to be
able to cook there, I had to be on a trial basis working in the
kitchen for three weeks first. Then I had to plan and prepare
and serve a whole meal to Alice and her associates and be critiqued.
Her presence was felt in the restaurant at all times. We all knew
about her thoughts about food and community. Her involvement and
sense of responsibility with the community was the biggest lesson
I learned there. She has done so much for this industry and gives
so much back. I try to emulate her and hope that I too can make
my part of the world a better place to live.
LL: Women In Professional Kitchens
MK: I've worked with a
lot of women, mostly at Larry Forgione's restaurants and I've
done special events with women. I find them to be very organized.
They are concerned and quite thorough. They make lists. Men often
think that it's just going to happen without all of the organization
and attention to details that women are concerned about. I have
two women working in my kitchen here at the Old Chatham Sheepherding
Company Inn. I don't go for genders. It's not important to me.
I have noticed that the dynamics in the kitchen are different
when the two men who work in this kitchen work together side by
side compared to when one of them works alongside me. This could
be because we're man and woman working together or because I'm
their boss; I'm not really sure. Luckily, who ever works here
seems to stay working for a long time. We don't have much personnel
turnover.
LL: Important Kitchen Tools
MK: Knives are #1. I use
the robocoup a lot.
LL: Old Chatham Sheepherding Company Inn
MK: This place has been
great for me. I started working with Tom and Nancy Clark, the
owners, at the inception of this great project in 1995. I am lucky
enough to have been the opening chef. Nancy Clark is a very creative,
talented interior designer. Tom Clark is the agriculturist. He
was a sheepherder and you know that we produce our own cheese
here. The original house that we started with was old and run
down. We decided that we would have a garden and a greenhouse.
My ideas and theirs started taking shape. The concept was basically
to have a Bed and Breakfast establishment. I said that if I was
going to come there that there must be a restaurant. The restaurant
originally had 35 seats. There are 48 now. In the summer, there
are 100 people a night on the waiting list. The Hudson Valley
is home for me. It's where I went to school and it's where I have
worked as a chef. I have great connections with neighbor clients
and local farmers as well as other chefs who are in the area.
I value my good ties with the CIA and think that it's very nice
being so close to the school. The Old Chatham Sheepherding Company
Inn has been a good thing.
LL: Tips And Tricks For The Home Cook
MK: I teach some cooking
classes here and there and I try to impress upon home cooks that
the ingredients are the most important part of cooking. It's vital
to use great ingredients. They are available especially in the
summer from all the local farmer stands. Rely on a butcher and
a fish person because they are specialists and they know what
to give you and understand their ingredients. Support your local
town suppliers. Home cooks tend not to use enough spices and fresh
herbs. They're afraid of using salt to season their food and butter
too. Use these in moderation to add flavor to your food. Many
home cooks just don't put enough flair into their food. These
days fresh herbs are readily available even in supermarkets. Great
ingredients are easier to get now more than ever.
LL: Winning a James Beard Award
MK: Surprising to me. It
was nice just to be nominated. The first time that I was nominated
was such a thrill. My family - my mother, my brother, my sister,
my fiancé all came to the Awards. And they were more disappointed
than I that I didn't win that year. To me, it was such a personal
sense of accomplishment and recognition. So, this year when it
happened that I did win a Beard award, I had asked everyone not
to attend because I didn't want them to be letdown again. It felt
so wonderful to win because with this award you are nominated
and voted on by your peers. When I won, I called the restaurant
and told them at 8:30 p.m. My sister brought my mother down to
Manhattan and surprised me that night. It's also such a nice thing
for my staff. I consider it to be a huge honor. There's great
competition and I feel bad for the guy who loses because last
year was so heart-wrenching for me. It's particularly special
to me because we're kind of in the woods and we don't usually
get the exposure that the big city chefs and restaurants get.
I like to think that it shows that you don't have to be in the
city to achieve this kind of recognition, that there are great
chefs anywhere. Especially, if you let your backyard be your garden
and depend on and support all your purveyors.
LL: The Future
MK: Of course it's every
chef's dream to have their own restaurant. Where I'm working now
would be hard to top. Not too many people can create a place like
this. Ultimately I do intend to go off on my own. It will be the
final part of the puzzle for me. I've been working very hard for
13 years now. I've been engaged for 2 and a half years, I'm 34
years old and would like to have at least one child. If I'm going
to have a family and a life, I need to be in a position where
I can call the shots. My goal is to figure it out. I actually
think that I need a wife myself. I work 90 to 100 hours a week
now. My focus is to get this down to 70 hours a week. My fiancé
is the talented baker here at the Inn, but our schedules are so
different and we definitely want to start spending more time together.
LL: Anything That You Want To Add
MK: For me, being a chef
means more than being a chef. It's important to think about the
farmer and the people on the receiving end of what I'm doing.
I care about quality of life. I want to teach people about food.
The end results? - think about it. Do I want to help big corporations
which are manufacturers or help farmers? I work closely with farmers
and I want them to know what people want to buy from them. We
build relationships. For example, there's a local butcher who
smokes my bacon the way I want to have it. When you build relationships
like this, it all comes back to you. It becomes a full circle.
Interview was conducted by Laura Lehrman
for StarChefs.